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Gene Whitman's avatar

Maybe Hertzel was trying to save the Jewish People from impending annihilation?

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Rob Crawford's avatar

That was certainly his motive. What I wonder about is his means.

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Gene Whitman's avatar

What were his options?

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Rob Crawford's avatar

Certainly there were better ones than the establishment of a religious state that guaranteed permanent warfare. It is ironic that Zionism was born in the same place and time as proto-fascist nationalisms. I am by no stretch of the imagination arguing for moral equivalence, of course. My partner, by the way, is a Zionist of the left.

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Gene Whitman's avatar

Would love to hear specific ' better solutions, especially considering what happened during WW2. I guess those european Jews who managed to survive should have simply returned to their homes.

I notice how you have nothing substantive to say against the arab side. I ll leave it to your zionist leftist partner to discuss with you.

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Rob Crawford's avatar

The Palestinian Arabs were disenfranchised in the 1948 Nakba, even those that did not fight in the war. Whether you like it or not, that guaranteed perpetual war. A better solution would have been to live together, to share the land. Obviously.

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Gene Whitman's avatar

When did the arabs ever expressed a willingness to share the land?

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Gene Whitman's avatar

And show me when the Palestinian arabs expressed a willingness to do this?

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